Crop Rotation/Or not - Beans
Veggie Offline
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I wonder whether he had less trouble with blight as I don't grow outdoor toms for that reason.
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(12-10-2020, 05:59 PM)Vinny Wrote: This year I am trying an experiment. Weedy organic matter that I would rather not add to my compost dalek, I am just chucking it along the centre area between my been poles/canes. These are pretty substantial as they are held up by a greenhouse frame.
The theory is that as it rots down it will feed and keep the area I plant the beans. It won't be moved and should nourish the plants. Next year before planting I propose to pull some of the compost from the sides onto the sowing area and just keep adding to the central compost longhouse.
That's interesting Vinny, I have 2 daleks that are solely being used for the plot weeds this year and was going to try and utilise these somehow.

Was thinking of some sort of hotbed thingy for courgettes but may also use some for the bean areaSmile

Thanks for the idea.
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My runner beans grow in the same place as well.
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(12-10-2020, 05:59 PM)Vinny Wrote: This year I am trying an experiment. Weedy organic matter that I would rather not add to my compost dalek, I am just chucking it along the centre area between my been poles/canes.

Out of interest, what organic mater would you rather not compost?
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I have an old water tank with a tight fitting lid....thankfully! I put most weeds in a sack and leave them to drown.

Resulting slurry in the sack then gets dug in....although tap rooted weeds are dried and burnt.

Lovely smelly water which is diluted and used as a liquid feed
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I thought drowning for a year would kill any weed seeds as well as the weeds but it didn't. I tried drowning dock seeds in a wheelie bin but 12 months + later when I poured them out in a heap, I noticed quite a few germinating so I left the heap where it was for a long while (still not moved it 3 years later) but I haven't noticed any more trying to germinate lately.
I think dock seeds are particularly hardy in this respect as they will survive up to 50C in a compost heap I think I read somewhere.
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I rotate, but my parents had a fixed frame and probably grew runners in the same place for over thirty years! My dad was a great one for trenching, but after he died my mum quickly adopted the compost/manure on the ground in autumn approach with pretty similar results (but fewer aches and pains)!
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I used to grow in same place for years. But since my hubby took over veg garden he rotates... Hes a sod for not trenching as well... (I do greenhouse, and seed sowing lol).
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(13-10-2020, 12:45 PM)Mark_Riga Wrote:
(12-10-2020, 05:59 PM)Vinny Wrote: This year I am trying an experiment. Weedy organic matter that I would rather not add to my compost dalek, I am just chucking it along the centre area between my been poles/canes.

Out of interest, what organic mater would you rather not compost?
Mainly roots and leaves of docks, dandelions, creeping buttercup,nettles and elder. I am not too bothered whether they survive the composting process in the centre of the bean trench as I will not be moving it, just adding to it. Smile

My dalek compost will be spread on the plot and I would rather I didn't do more harm than good. Rolleyes
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One of the main reasons I have set up a permanent runner been position is because it is sheltered from the wind by the greenhouse. I have tried growing climbers in different positions on the plot  but they get battered by the wind. Where they are at they are still growing and have had minimal wind damage. Cool
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