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I've seen some of the setups you mention Danny with deep sieved compost containers and some of them individually make carrot shaped holes for the carrots to go into. I do admire the dedication of these guys but I don't have the time or the inclination. I chuck the seeds in some will fork some won't, they all end up in the pot.

Yes fair play to them.

Last year I just bunged some parsnips and beetroot in a little area I'd cleared as an experiment.

We got about 10 parsnips which has really motivated for this year, what could possibly go wrong

But god the beetroot, now in my top 5 for veg, also froze well

Anyway, sorry I don't want to hijack another thread!!!!