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Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 11-03-2023

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My plans to convert this netted area into a fruit cage came to an end when the snow came and demolished the netting roof and dragged most of the uprights out of the ground. Its too far gone to rebuild it so, its Plan B. 

About half of the space is a pond, the other half is floored with slices of ash tree and gravel on top of, I think, plastic. The ash slices are mossy and slippery when wet so they have to go.
The pond is lined with, would you believe, flexible pond liner. i don't want to take this out because there's all sort of rubbish underneath - kitchen worksurface, table top, polystyrene, duvets - in fact anything I could find to  level the bottom and protect the liner from tree roots and rocks. 
My vague plan is to empty the pond, puncture the liner so that it can drain, throw the ash slices into the empty pond and try to find some soil to fill the hole with.

My question to the panel is - what plants would enjoy having their roots in this sort of location. I imagine it will stay damp and the wood will act like a sunken hugelkultur bed.


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Small chilli - 11-03-2023

This is going to take some thinking about. Back later


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 11-03-2023

Plants are just part of the equation. I'm also wondering how to make best use of the wire netting enclosure. There are at least 4 options - remove the lot, repair the lot, leave the south (far) side standing or the north (near) side standing. Either of the last 2 options would leave enough spare wire to close off another bit of garden from the dogs. At the moment, I'm favouring reinstating the south side and attaching it to the Pea cage. This would keep the dogs off the "pond" bed. Any other option doesn't.
I've covered lots of backs of envelopes this weekend.


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 11-03-2023

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[attachment=5918]A few old photos.


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Vinny - 12-03-2023

Fill hole with organic matter, needn't be composted, and palnt runner beans in a layer of soil/compost on top! They'll love it! Smile


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - JJB - 12-03-2023

The Web says figs, celery, peas and asparagus like damp soil.


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 12-03-2023

Having had a long, hard look at the patch, removed most of the roof netting and braced most of the collapsed uprights, today's Plan is to remove almost all of the fencing and replace it with the low level "playpen" fences and gates that I've been using to keep the dogs off some of the beds. If I close off the ground to the left of the doorway with a gate, I can remove all the Playpen fences behind it and use those to enclose the pond area.
This will give me more veg patch ground to play with and make access to the pea frame, bean house and other bits easier as I won't have to open/close all the little gates to keep the dogs out.


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 12-03-2023

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This is what I mean by Playpen fencing - and I'll be able to take it all down if I make a new entrance to the veg patch.
I love it when there's a new plan coming together that actually makes sense. Big Grin


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Vinny - 12-03-2023

(12-03-2023, 05:43 PM)Veggie Wrote: This is what I mean by Playpen fencing - and I'll be able to take it all down if I make a new entrance to the veg patch.
I love it when there's a new plan coming together that actually makes sense. Big Grin
You beeen watching the A Team again? Big Grin

https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/ateam-plan-together-i-love-it-when-hannibal-gif-19272497


RE: Which veg/fruit like damp ground? - Veggie - 12-03-2023

They copied me. Big Grin