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Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Veggie - 16-11-2020
Some Broad beans and winter hardy Peas can be sown October/November.
Do you do this and which ones have you sown or are going to sow - and how??
Any hints/tips/experiences you'd like to share?
I've started some Super Aquadulce BBs in modules in the GH and I'm sorting out some other seeds as we speak.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - PyreneesPlot - 16-11-2020
I've sown Masterpeice & Grano Violleto broad beans, both in pots, sown 1st October, planted out 11th November, and in rows direct sown 28th October, through within ten days. I prefer the autumn sown ones as they seem to resist chocolate spot better. It will be interesting to compare their relative performances in the spring.
Peas - douce de Provence direct sown 28th October and through in a week. Again winter sown do better, spring sown suffering more from mildew and the long tailed blue butterfly, (very pretty, also know as the pea blue butterfly!)
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Broadway - 16-11-2020
Broad beans – 12 x Statissa (2017 seed?) & 12 x Witkiem (Self Saved) were sown Friday 13th in loo rolls, mpc.
Sitting outside in the yard.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Vinny - 16-11-2020
I usually sow some of 'The Sutton' in the autumn but wont be bothering this year. There's only me in the house who eats them and I have a freezer full.
I grew Bunyards Exhibition earlier in the year and had a good crop. My Dad always grew these so I think I will give the autumn sown beans a miss and wait until spring.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Broadway - 16-11-2020
(16-11-2020, 05:08 PM)Vinny Wrote: I usually sow some of 'The Sutton' in the autumn but wont be bothering this year. There's only me in the house who eats them and I have a freezer full.I was gonna give it a miss but found some 2017 seeds as well as my own saved seeds from this year, first time saving.
I grew Bunyards Exhibition earlier in the year and had a good crop. My Dad always grew these so I think I will give the autumn sown beans a miss and wait until spring.
Thought I'd sow these now and any disasters I can sow some other seeds direct next year.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Mark_Riga - 16-11-2020
Does anyone have any ideas on stopping short tongued bees robbing the nectar from my broad beans without pollinating them?
I could grow flowers they can get at easily, any ideas of good ones for nectar?
I could try hand pollinating but would be time consuming?
Would sowing now help? Or would they be one of the few flowering early spring and so bee more vulnerable.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Veggie - 16-11-2020
Anything suitable here? https://friendsoftheearth.uk/bees/beefriendly-plants-every-season
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Mark_Riga - 16-11-2020
(16-11-2020, 06:11 PM)Veggie Wrote: Anything suitable here? https://friendsoftheearth.uk/bees/beefriendly-plants-every-season
Not really Veggie. I think I'll sow some monada and nigella to plant near (just looked what flower seeds are in the box that flower for a few weeks in early summer). Also sow the beans later so hopefully more stuff will be flowering elsewhere. Not sure this will work as it was on french bean flowers that I saw the bees boring holes and helping themselves without pollinating when there was plenty else for them in the garden. It obviously doesn't matter for french beans as still got a good crop.
When the beans are flowering, I'll keep an eye on the flowers for any tell tale holes at the base.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - PyreneesPlot - 16-11-2020
(16-11-2020, 05:59 PM)Mark_Riga Wrote: Does anyone have any ideas on stopping short tongued bees robbing the nectar from my broad beans without pollinating them?I sometimes have to use a net against carpenter bees who bite through the base of the flowers. The problem has improved now there are other flowers for them to feed on- a good excuse for leaving the early dandelions!
I could grow flowers they can get at easily, any ideas of good ones for nectar?
I could try hand pollinating but would be time consuming?
Would sowing now help? Or would they be one of the few flowering early spring and so bee more vulnerable.
RE: Autumn sowing of Beans and Peas - Mark_Riga - 16-11-2020
(16-11-2020, 07:46 PM)PyreneesPlot Wrote:(16-11-2020, 05:59 PM)Mark_Riga Wrote: Does anyone have any ideas on stopping short tongued bees robbing the nectar from my broad beans without pollinating them?I sometimes have to use a net against carpenter bees who bite through the base of the flowers. The problem has improved now there are other flowers for them to feed on- a good excuse for leaving the early dandelions!
If you net them, are other insects trapped in the nets or how do they then get pollinated?