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RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Veggie - 28-01-2021
Last night's Kale (and odd brassica) sowings. Only a few of each - more of a viability test than a serious sowing!!
Sit down - this could take a while.
Dwarf Blue Curly
Big Bull's Head Cabbage
Buttonhole Starmaker
Black Magic
Cottagers
Curly Scarlet
Collard Champion
Cavalo Nero
Dazzling Blue
Delaway cabbage/kale
Daubenton
East Friesian
Foragers
Georgia Southern Collard
Dwarf Green Curled
Gloria de Portugal Cabbage
Hungry Gap
Holbhouer Gruner Krauser
Jagallo Nero
Jersey/Walking Stick
Couve Galega Lisa
Kapitan F1
Morris Heading Collard
Nine Star Perennial Broccoli
Half way through the box.
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Small chilli - 28-01-2021
I’m going to have to do some googling after my tea.
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Veggie - 28-01-2021
Some of the Portuguese brassica packets that I acquired years ago are hard to translate but, I found this:
..... as another Portuguese I’ll give you some notes on Portuguese brassicas. Portuguese speakers will often confuse cabbage, kale (or collard greens) and Portuguese cabbage when speaking in English because all follow under the term “couve” in Portuguese, but Portuguese cabbage and Portuguese kale are not the same. Portuguese kale (“couve-galega”) is a variety of kale. It has both frilly and smooth forms, and people don’t really distinguish between the two – in some places you often see the growing side by side in the same field, and both can come in the same batch of seed. This is the one you have there, and the one usually used for “caldo verde”. Regular cabbages are called “couve-repolho” (smooth leaves), “couve-lombarda” (frilled leaves) and “couve-roxa” (red cabbage), but were traditionally less cultivated. Portuguese cabbage (“couve-portuguesa”, “couve-penca” and “couve-tronchuda”) falls in between cabbage and kale, and is considered a distinct cultivar from either of the two. It remains short, and sometimes form a small sprout on top, but never form a big, round cabbage. “Couve-portuguesa” or “couve-tronchuda” is a particular landrace of the cultivar (the one traditionally eaten with boiled codfish and potatos on Christmas eve), and includes Tronchuda Beirã. Other varieties include “Penca de Chaves”, “Penca de Mirandela”, and a few other.
https://backyardlarder.co.uk/2014/09/portuguese-kale/
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Small chilli - 28-01-2021
I like the look of Buttonhole Starmaker and Delaway cabbage/kale. Have you grown those varieties before?
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Veggie - 29-01-2021
Not Starmaker (that was unopened) - may have tried Delaway before - it was from HSL so old seeds now.
I've probably tried growing most of these seeds before but haven't got a clue about whether they were a success or not!
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Vinny - 29-01-2021
I once grew what I think was Siberian Kale, mainly to feed the chickens. The plants grew HUGE and when I got round to tasting it I found I liked it too.
Might give it another try this year If I can find the seeds to buy somwhere?
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Vinny - 29-01-2021
That was quick!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Seeds-Direct-KAL02-Borecole/dp/B00AC26DTI/ref=asc_df_B00AC26DTI/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=265252967722&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8728495715669053373&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006649&hvtargid=pla-427402998139&psc=1&th=1&psc=1
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Small chilli - 29-01-2021
I’ve grown that one before as well. Like you, it’s one I should probably revisit at some point.
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Veggie - 02-02-2021
(27-01-2021, 09:36 PM)Veggie Wrote: Interesting blog at https://scottishforestgarden.wordpress.com/2020/10/03/perennial-kale-breeding/I've received some Purple kale seeds from the Scottish Forest Garden that I'm hoping to cross with my green perennial kales. Who knows what I'll grow!!
Seeds available too on a swap/donate/pay it forward basis.
They are:-
Purple kale tree (PKT)
Son of PKT
Nero di Toscana x PKT
Deep Purple
Kalettes (I'm determined to grow these!).
RE: An Alphabet of Kales (almost). - Small chilli - 02-02-2021
I must grow kalettes again, they did well here and they were actually quite nice.