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Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Broadway - 02-08-2020

Morning Folks

Again a planning question for next year...

So from what I'm reading I should avoid adding manure to the beds I plan for roots (and onions??) next year, is this correct?

If so the year after will roots (and onions) be ok in the previously manured beds?


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - JJB - 02-08-2020

As far as I know, Danny, and no doubt there are far more knowledgeable out there than I, onions like a rich soil and are quite hungry, so would be more than happy in manure, whereas the roots like a bed fed the previous year.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Broadway - 02-08-2020

(02-08-2020, 11:13 AM)JJB Wrote: As far as I know, Danny, and no doubt there are far more knowledgeable out there than I,  onions like a rich soil and are quite hungry, so would be more than happy in manure, whereas the roots like a bed fed the previous year.
Thanks JJB, the onion one sounded a little odd too meSmile


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Mark_Riga - 02-08-2020

Generally, manure is applied where potatoes are to be grown and the following year in a rotation might include cabbage and the application of lime (I've never used lime or manure though, only garden compost). With roots next, you might add some fish, bone and blood (not used that either). I would have thought though, if you were using the no dig system and using the manure as a surface dressing, it would not cause forking. I don't know if anyone has ever done any experiments in this regard. You would probably need to plant the seeds in the soil and rake the manure back when the seeds were through.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - JJB - 02-08-2020

(02-08-2020, 11:39 AM)Broadway Wrote:
(02-08-2020, 11:13 AM)JJB Wrote: As far as I know, Danny, and no doubt there are far more knowledgeable out there than I,  onions like a rich soil and are quite hungry, so would be more than happy in manure, whereas the roots like a bed fed the previous year.
Thanks JJB, the onion one sounded a little odd too meSmile

My advice might be totally wrong for no dig beds though, never tried no dig myself.  Vinny's the expert there I believe.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Mikey - 03-08-2020

I like the theory behind no dig but, also like an open trench for my beans I’ve never been able to marry the two schools of thought into a coherent practise.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Veggie - 03-08-2020

(03-08-2020, 07:15 AM)Mikey Wrote: I like the theory behind no dig but, also like an open trench for my beans I’ve never been able to marry the two schools of thought into a coherent practise.
I like the theory too but I don't have a supply of manure/compost or whatever to cover the garden a couple of inches deep every year so my plants have to get by on whatever they can find in the existing soil. If they're lucky they'll get a handful of chicken manure pellets at planting out time.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Broadway - 03-08-2020

Thanks for all your comments folks.

My beds will primarily be no dig however I'll probably do a trench for the beans.

I will plan to manure most of the beds this year but will avoid the roots ones.


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Admin - 03-08-2020

If you use well rotted manure in the autumn it should be fine in the spring for planting


RE: Manure and Root Crops, and Rotation - Broadway - 03-08-2020

(03-08-2020, 06:46 PM)Admin Wrote: If you use well rotted manure in the autumn it should be fine in the spring for planting
For all crops?