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Non F1 alternative to Sungold - JJB - 13-07-2024
I like Sungold tomatoes (a lot) but I'm mindful of of a wish to grow less F1 varieties, although I'm not succeeding very well in that direction. Anyone know of a non-F1 alternative to Sungold's sweetness?
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - Small chilli - 13-07-2024
I’ve started growing rosella instead. Because I didn’t like the F1 part of sungold.
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - Veggie - 13-07-2024
I'm not a fan of sweet tomatoes, so can't help you. Sorry.
https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/five-sweetest-tomato-varieties/
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - JJB - 13-07-2024
(13-07-2024, 11:21 AM)Small chilli Wrote: I’ve started growing rosella instead. Because I didn’t like the F1 part of sungold.
I've got some Rosella growing in the gh, it'll be interesting to compare the two. I'm not intending to go completely OP yet, baby steps.
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - toomanytommytoes - 13-07-2024
There have been numerous attempts to de-hybridise Sungold, but I don't think any of them have quite capture the unique taste/aroma.
The most well-known are probably Sungold Select, Sungold Select II and Big Sungold Select, all bred by Reinhard Kraft.
There's also the Ambrosia line of cherries from J&L Gardens. I'm not sure if they came from Sungold, but the mentions of spicy and tropical in some of the descriptions make me think they did.
Gobstopper is a quite recent one from Brown Envelope Seeds in Ireland.
There are also some very highly rated de-hybridisations of Sunsugar called Honey Drop (not the pear-shaped one) and Pink Princess.
Black Hole Sun, Sweet As Linda and Chocolate Drop all have Sungold as one of the parents.
I've also read good things about Santiam Sunrise, Snow White and Isis Candy.
These aren't commercial varieties so you'll have to get them from smaller seed sellers.
You can get Pink Princess from Tomato Fifou (I have ordered from them a few times before and they are very good) - https://www.tomatofifou.com/en/produit/pink-princess/
Meraki Seeds have Big Sungold Select, Sungold Select II, Honey Drop, Pink Princess, Gobstopper, four of the Ambrosia cherries, and a few of the other varieties I mentioned (I've not ordered from them before) - https://merakiseeds.com/
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - JJB - 13-07-2024
(13-07-2024, 08:01 PM)toomanytommytoes Wrote: There have been numerous attempts to de-hybridise Sungold, but I don't think any of them have quite capture the unique taste/aroma.
The most well-known are probably Sungold Select, Sungold Select II and Big Sungold Select, all bred by Reinhard Kraft.
There's also the Ambrosia line of cherries from J&L Gardens. I'm not sure if they came from Sungold, but the mentions of spicy and tropical in some of the descriptions make me think they did.
Gobstopper is a quite recent one from Brown Envelope Seeds in Ireland.
There are also some very highly rated de-hybridisations of Sunsugar called Honey Drop (not the pear-shaped one) and Pink Princess.
Black Hole Sun, Sweet As Linda and Chocolate Drop all have Sungold as one of the parents.
I've also read good things about Santiam Sunrise, Snow White and Isis Candy.
These aren't commercial varieties so you'll have to get them from smaller seed sellers.
You can get Pink Princess from Tomato Fifou (I have ordered from them a few times before and they are very good) - https://www.tomatofifou.com/en/produit/pink-princess/
Meraki Seeds have Big Sungold Select, Sungold Select II, Honey Drop, Pink Princess, Gobstopper, four of the Ambrosia cherries, and a few of the other varieties I mentioned (I've not ordered from them before) - https://merakiseeds.com/
I knew I could rely on you TMTT. Food for thought there.
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - toomanytommytoes - 14-07-2024
Obviously you'll have to buy them all and have a taste off.
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - Small chilli - 14-07-2024
(14-07-2024, 12:00 AM)toomanytommytoes Wrote: Obviously you'll have to buy them all and have a taste off.then save & share the seed in the next swap
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - JJB - 14-07-2024
(14-07-2024, 12:00 AM)toomanytommytoes Wrote: Obviously you'll have to buy them all and have a taste off.
Who me!? That's not likely but might happen over time. I've got Santiam Sunrise on my list for next year.
RE: Non F1 alternative to Sungold - toomanytommytoes - 14-07-2024
(14-07-2024, 09:26 AM)JJB Wrote:Plenty of time before next season for your resolve to weaken.(14-07-2024, 12:00 AM)toomanytommytoes Wrote: Obviously you'll have to buy them all and have a taste off.
Who me!? That's not likely but might happen over time. I've got Santiam Sunrise on my list for next year.
