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RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - toomanytommytoes - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 05:46 PM)Scarlet Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 04:03 PM)toomanytommytoes Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 10:35 AM)Scarlet Wrote: My self saved white mallow hasn't popped either Sad 
Is it musk mallow? Malva alcea and moschata both need cold (5 Celcius) to initiate germination. I've some some in the fridge which started germinating within a few weeks.
No, these are an annual mallow, lavatera trimestris? I had trouble germinating them last year... thought it would be better from my own saved seed? Maybe I should try fridge first anyway?
In that case, the website I use for germination information says it should take 5-10 days at 22 Celcius, no cold required.

Really useful website as the instructions on seed packets can often be wrong about germination conditions - https://tomclothier.hort.net/


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - toomanytommytoes - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 05:50 PM)Scarlet Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 04:00 PM)toomanytommytoes Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 10:40 AM)Scarlet Wrote: I have an eryngium row, I am running out of space and I'm hoping they don't cast too much shadow on my old GH. Thinking that early on in the season they don't flower. Very good growth I think from an early sowing this year?
The foliage on that sea holly stays very close to the ground, it's only the flower stalks which are tall but they're also very thin so don't cast much shade. The colour of the stems on mine right now is fantastic, like a metallic blue/purple.
That's what I was hoping.... I've sown some white. I have some blue ones here from seed - You put in the swap? Also have some more caradonna on the go from your seed....come in handy these seed swaps Smile
Yep, Eryngium planum. There's another variety called 'Big Blue' which looks like it has much bigger cones. I also have a little Blue Hobbit which I am trying to propagate, it's really cute but probably not much good for cut flowers.


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Farendwoman - 11-09-2022

My blue hobbit is about 8 inches tall I bought it by mistake and keep trying to remember to oik it out. No good for cutting whatsoever.


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Scarlet - 12-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 06:30 PM)toomanytommytoes Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 05:46 PM)Scarlet Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 04:03 PM)toomanytommytoes Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 10:35 AM)Scarlet Wrote: My self saved white mallow hasn't popped either Sad 
Is it musk mallow? Malva alcea and moschata both need cold (5 Celcius) to initiate germination. I've some some in the fridge which started germinating within a few weeks.
No, these are an annual mallow, lavatera trimestris? I had trouble germinating them last year... thought it would be better from my own saved seed? Maybe I should try fridge first anyway?
In that case, the website I use for germination information says it should take 5-10 days at 22 Celcius, no cold required.

Really useful website as the instructions on seed packets can often be wrong about germination conditions - https://tomclothier.hort.net/
That's a useful link, thank you. My go to is usually Chilterns... but disappointed in these lavetera seeds. It's always the ones you want!


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Scarlet - 12-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 08:13 PM)Farendwoman Wrote: My blue hobbit is about 8 inches tall I bought it by mistake and keep trying to remember to oik it out. No good for cutting whatsoever.
They are so easy from seed. It's worth putting a few in now and overwintering in the Greenhouse. I've found the white ones much trickier to germinate that the blue ones.


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Scarlet - 12-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 11:44 AM)JJB Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 11:28 AM)Scarlet Wrote: I definitely need to do some research on what flowers that will bloom in September. The dahlias go so well, but they look stunning with a few different blooms that will go with them. Less varieties and more of the same may help. Not much of a colour theme going on here as I'm using every stem I can pick. I've picked so much from the garden this year that I've little filler left. Raspberry is good... but I've picked all those too!

Picking every day means that I just have to go with colour/blooms that are perfect to pick. I've not deadheaded any dahlia yet - I've used every single bloom.

When you've researched September flowering whatever, could you share wit us (me)?  I think every year I've got to find something to brighten up the borders at this time of year apart from sedum.
For the garden you can't beat snap dragons - if yo don't get the extra tall F1s for cutting, there's loads in a pack and much shorter so are perfect for garden colour. Scabious? Mine are still going. Cosmos is a fab late summer option, first time for straw flowers for me this year but I would recommend.

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The snap dragons here are tetra ruffled giants...they didn't get that big here as it's been too dry. I didn't stake, these are just in the garden so no use for picking. Ran out of space in the spring. I always grow scabious for late summer colour.


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Scarlet - 12-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 02:33 PM)Veggie Wrote: My Kaffir lilies started flowering this month. They'd look good in a vase. https://cornishblooms.co.uk/about/kaffir-lilies/
I'm looking into these. They look worth the initial cost as they should spread? How many blooms do you get on a clump?


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - JJB - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 11:22 AM)Scarlet Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 11:44 AM)JJB Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 11:28 AM)Scarlet Wrote: I definitely need to do some research on what flowers that will bloom in September. The dahlias go so well, but they look stunning with a few different blooms that will go with them. Less varieties and more of the same may help. Not much of a colour theme going on here as I'm using every stem I can pick. I've picked so much from the garden this year that I've little filler left. Raspberry is good... but I've picked all those too!

Picking every day means that I just have to go with colour/blooms that are perfect to pick. I've not deadheaded any dahlia yet - I've used every single bloom.

When you've researched September flowering whatever, could you share wit us (me)?  I think every year I've got to find something to brighten up the borders at this time of year apart from sedum.
For the garden you can't beat snap dragons - if yo don't get the extra tall F1s for cutting, there's loads in a pack and much shorter so are perfect for garden colour. Scabious? Mine are still going. Cosmos is a fab late summer option, first time for straw flowers for me this year but I would recommend.



The snap dragons here are tetra ruffled giants...they didn't get that big here as it's been too dry. I didn't stake, these are just in the garden so no use for picking. Ran out of space in the spring. I always grow scabious for late summer colour.

Thanks Scarlet, food for thought there.


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Veggie - 12-09-2022

I scrounged mine last year so its their first real year flowering. I'll see if I can work out what stems belong to which clump. .........


RE: Scarlets Cut Flower Patch 2022 - Scarlet - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 12:31 PM)JJB Wrote:
(12-09-2022, 11:22 AM)Scarlet Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 11:44 AM)JJB Wrote:
(11-09-2022, 11:28 AM)Scarlet Wrote: I definitely need to do some research on what flowers that will bloom in September. The dahlias go so well, but they look stunning with a few different blooms that will go with them. Less varieties and more of the same may help. Not much of a colour theme going on here as I'm using every stem I can pick. I've picked so much from the garden this year that I've little filler left. Raspberry is good... but I've picked all those too!

Picking every day means that I just have to go with colour/blooms that are perfect to pick. I've not deadheaded any dahlia yet - I've used every single bloom.

When you've researched September flowering whatever, could you share wit us (me)?  I think every year I've got to find something to brighten up the borders at this time of year apart from sedum.
For the garden you can't beat snap dragons - if yo don't get the extra tall F1s for cutting, there's loads in a pack and much shorter so are perfect for garden colour. Scabious? Mine are still going. Cosmos is a fab late summer option, first time for straw flowers for me this year but I would recommend.



The snap dragons here are tetra ruffled giants...they didn't get that big here as it's been too dry. I didn't stake, these are just in the garden so no use for picking. Ran out of space in the spring. I always grow scabious for late summer colour.

Thanks Scarlet, food for thought there.
Perennials that I have now would be penstemons and japanese anemones.

What I forgot to add and which has been brilliant for cutting this year is Rudbeckia Sahara. Not many in  apack of seeds but they are a really gorgeous colours - coppers, dirty pinks :} not quite sure how to describe! burgandys and are mixed. They are double petals... ....you may be able to spot them in the flower bunch photos I posted earier.

....what happened to your dahlias?