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Why do some varieties get called F1 on some seed suppliers but no F1 mention on others?  Can I check anywhere please?

I grew Rosella tomatoes this year from Premier and they are lush.  Performed well, taste gorgeous, thin skin but not as prone to splitting as black cherry or black opal. I am saving seeds to share on here, but need to clarify if they are F1 or not. 

https://www.premierseedsdirect.com/produ...y-rosella/


https://www.seedaholic.com/tomato-f1-rosella.html

Any advice please? This tomatoes really impressed me, so I would love to share them.
I think the jury is out on whether its F1 or not - probably depends on how much they want to sell the seeds for. Wink
IIRC some members of another forum have grow it from saved seeds but I don't remember the outcome.
I hope they’re not for 2 reasons.
1 I’m also saving them because they’re lovely and for the seed circle on here ( bu@@er I’ll have to find a different variety   Big Grin )
2 I got the seed I’m growing from a seed circle in the other universe.
I saved seed from rosella a couple of years ago and as far as I can see they came true.
I think I grew them too but found they fell off the plants very easily - so haven't grown them again.
(05-09-2020, 10:14 PM)Veggie Wrote: [ -> ]I think I grew them too but found they fell off the plants very easily - so haven't grown them again.
Interesting. I’ve not found that to be the case. My sungold do that. It’s very annoying. Another thing I like about them the blackbird seems to leave them alone.
Rosella isn't an F1 as far as I am aware. There's no mention of it being a hybrid on the breeder's website - https://www.gourmetgenetics.com/tomato/tomatoes.html
I hve absolutely loved them this year, my best performing tomatoes and super tasty x
I've grown these from self saved seeds and they were fine.

I know lots of people say black cherry split - they only do so if they are over ripe. I think they are deceiving as they have green shoulders and can look "under done" I would pick before they start loosing the green.
Hmm, that is interesting as I love Black Cherry but they split so much x